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 Re: def:NNn --- was tlp type Frank Mittelbach <[log in to unmask]> Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:55:18 +0200 text/plain (29 lines) Will Robertson writes:  > On 10/09/2008, at 1:34 AM, Mittelbach, Frank wrote:  >  > > my take is that the recent addition of \def:NNn and firends was  > > already a mistake and should be reverted. These functions provide  > > something which at the expl3 level isn't really needed.  >  > I'm undecided so far. I definitely see your side of the argument.  >  > But it is nice to just write "4" instead of, say, "##1##2##3##4"; less  > characters means more clarity, in this case. Sometimes functions that  > define other functions can get a bit lost in all the octothorps. yes that's the case for which my argument breaks down a little bit, I agree. But this is rather the exception .. and in most cases where double ## marks show up you are usually doing weird stuff anyway like mixing inner and outer args ... and within that inner definition you still need ## to denote your arguments so ...  > On the other hand, it is only "syntactic sugar" for which we're paying  > (not so) precious expansions. yeah ... and if people find it really useful ... I don't mind :-) that much it is just that I don't see a need for them 'night frank