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 Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project <[log in to unmask]> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:33:42 +0200 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Joachim Schrod <[log in to unmask]> Parts/Attachments: text/plain (40 lines) >>>>> "TM" == Timothy Murphy <[log in to unmask]> writes: TM> Knuth was right 99.9% of the time. Well, $99.9\% \pm \epsilon$ for a quite large $\epsilon$ depending on which part of TeX you look at. In particular, the macro language is not only dreadful, but may be called "the most horrible macro language after the C preprocessor" with full rights. That's why the ant work of Achim is so interesting, including his distinction between markup and programming syntax.[*] It's an open question if O'Caml programs are really good for this problem domain (I'm not really convinced), but the framework is powerful enough to plug in other style sheets and to experiment with it. Cheers,         Joachim [*] Disclaimer: I'm biased here and think that ant has not got the acknowledgement in the TeX community it deserves. All talk about NTS, and here we have a system with concepts that is better already. The concepts are nearer towards the original goals for NTS, too. Actually, one of my employees, Gerd Stolpmann, spends quite some of his work time on O'Caml software and I hope to be able to combine some of his work (e.g., on PXP, a blasting fast and powerful XML parser, see http://www.ocaml-programming.de/programming/pxp.html) with components from ant some day. But I digress, that get's off topic too much. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Joachim Schrod Email: [log in to unmask] Roedermark, Germany         How do we persuade new users that spreading fonts across the page         like peanut butter across hot toast is not necessarily the route to         typographic excellence?'' -- Peter Flynn