Sebastian Rahtz wrote --
> > As much as I care about any other large number of people doing things
> > with documents, yes.
> well, the issue is how large does the group get for you to notice it
Agreed: or rather before "we" noticed it. As ever, this depends on
distance (and other more political factors) as well as size.
> > as you suggest, but if that is all we need then we should leave out
> > the TeX bit and just:
> > make an even better formatting engine
> yes please pretty please. keep the TeX macro language for those who
> like it as a means of communication, but disengage it from the
> formatting engine.
Yes; exactly what I was suggesting.
> oh hell now we are back full circle. and i have a feeling Chris and I
> are simply agreeing that
> a) the (La)TeX language in all its glory should be cut down for the
> communication subset (somehow!)
> b) work on formatting engines should be independent of TeX markup
> which is a trite pair of conclusions,
> and proabbly the basis for NTS
Hmm, I wonder?
> > > algorithms for float placement....
> > Oh please, yes please! No one ever sent me one yet.
> the chattering classes have one. it is `when it looks nice'
Funny, now you remind me, I do seem to have heard of that famous
algorithm before. Another favourite (usually from computing people)
is: "why do you need me to give you an algorithm, it's obvious what to