> What users expect is something like an exponentially weighted > placement algorithm: There is a possibility in the new algorithm to have something like this, as there is a possibility (documented but not currently implemented) to store the page on which the float callout was typeset as part of the float data structure (once that page is known) Then there would be a possibility of using the difference between that page and the current page as part of the float placement algorithm. Fixed rules like the one you cited, are fairly easy. That said deferred floats must always appear on the next page (which basically means you have to ignore all the float parameters and constraints and just get get the float out, like a current \clearpage but allowing use of top area as well) But it isn't clear how one could `gradually' alter the float placement parameters to encourage floats to appear `near' their callout but in `reasonable' positions. That is not to say it can't be done, but suggestions welcome. ie given something like the current \textpagefraction, \topnumber etc, how would you modify the algorithm given additional information the number of pages the current float has been deferred. Or more generally what parameters woulD you use _instead_ of \textpagefraction, \topnumber ... > usually 10% to 60% of \textheight. ie too large to go in top, too small to make a float page on their own, ideal material for taking to the end of the document, given the default latex parameter settings! David PS > t doesn't satisfy this requirement, because it could (sensibly) place > the float on the current page, before the reference to it. It would if you add flafter package (but that isn't too relevant to the new algorithm)