> I hope this list is still alive - I joined 5 days ago and so > far I got no mail from it. which is because many of the people actively discussing the future of latex were at the tug2000 conference. this mailing list is for latex futures: please don't post working issues about current latex here. the usenet group comp.text.tex would answer your question very quickly; i'll reply to you, off-list, to on the present issue. Robin Fairbairns For the LaTeX Team