> > from the grave, Sebastian > > okay okay, good try to wake the ... from the grave. sebastian as kraken doesn't compute, somehow. > i agree that the missing T1 type1 fonts are a killer --- tend to forget that > every now and then. hrrmph. i only ever use ot1 when i'm producing pdf that needs to use cm-type outlines. > so in other words, to get to a good internal handling i have to find proper > free Type 1 fonts first and make them part of LaTeX. not "part of latex" but "as easily accessible as the ams/y&y/bsr ones are". getting them into every latex distribution then becomes the responsibility of the packagers (who will no doubt make as good a job of it as ever ... i really don't understand how people manage ;-). robin