> As I have (finally) some practical experience of using templates (kind of > late, but the stuff I've been doing the last year haven't involved much > design), I have encountered some general issues about templates that I have you had any usages for CollectionInstances while getting some practical experience? the more we do use the stuff (template/instancess i mean) the more it seems to us that collections aren't quite the way they should be (though we don't know what or how they should be). i mean any time we start thinking of using them for something we don't in the end consider "that" case a good case and finally don't use them because of ... in other words they aren't quite right and perhaps in that form of no use at all, ever. any ideas? frank