Timothy, > You seem to me to have been quite remarkably courteous, rational and patient > in all your postings. > If anyone in the world could bridge what seems to me an unbridgeable gap > it must be you. well thanks :-) we'll see (though not if i do another week or tw with less than 4 hours sleep per night > But David Carlisle raised one point which you don't seem to have taken into account. > He suggested (if I understood him correctly) > that modifying the LaTeX licence to make it "Debian-free" > would in fact adversely affect publishers and others presently using LaTeX. rest assured, you are mistaken. he was speaking of the case to use an existing debian-free license like GPL for latex. frank