Ok, here is a question which probably has been discussed to death already but which I would not know due to being a newcomer on this list: Has anybody of the LaTeX3 team yet taken a look at the ltxgrid package by Arthur Ogawa? While it does not have the figure placement folderol of xor, it does offer nice ways of extending output routines, both in the area of the actual code as well as magical penalties (<-20000), can make longtable play together with multiple columns and so on. It does not do what xor does out of the box, but it offers much nicer hooks for playing together with others. The magical penalty stuff is basically what I had been proposing, only that there is missing an allocation macro for the same, and that there is missing a _context_ for the same, since one might want to have one and the same penalty behave differently whether one is in an output routine for a particular column, or just rushing a footnote box through penalty processing in order to get margine notes and so on. The stuff is used in RevTeX4. It is probably not a bad idea to skim for some ideas... although you probably have done so already. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum