Hi Frank, > agreed, miktex would be one of the few that would still make sense. as you > have seen I started on tex-implementors and latex-l a request for updates > ... so far i only received "removals" Ok, thanks for your message. A good idea to ask around :) BTW, as you may have heard, Morten worked a bit on l3keyval and I am working on a proposal for a name space and workflows for l3keyval. I hope to send you some things soon, but I'm rather busy lately. I'll do my best. Cheers, -Hendri.