Paul, > What about a simplistic solution, in which you have a flag to 1) change > regardless of floats - it's your problem or 2) not change if floats are > present? After all, you, the writer are putting out floats. They don't > come from the Land of Floats. If you want to change dimensions, you either > set the flag to force dimensional change or you don't put out the floats. > As I say, simplistic. that is an approach and it may solve some problems but not the problem that this OR is intending to tackle and resolve: multicolumn layout with flexible float handling so using an interface that says "don't do that then" isn't really what I'm looking for frank