Frank Mittelbach wrote: > > sorry for joining so late ... yes you are absolutely right, this module needs > even more than just "some" attention. It is one of those modules that date > back to the very first version of expl3 (predating LaTeX2e even). > > so it isn't really surprising it it is much more concerned with saving space > etc than it would need to these days. yes this needs a complete new design I think Will made some very useful suggestions on what might be nice from the point of view of a package author. The idea of a centralised debug/info/warning/error message is a particularly nice one. So having a separate message defining and message using functions is an idea I like. -- Joseph Wright