Joseph, > My take, as an outsider looking in, is that although there are always > ways to improve things, the current expl3 is not too bad at all. If > LaTeX3 is ever going to be more than a collection of interesting coding > ideas for TeX programmers, there does need to be a delivery point. That On the contrary, the code is wonderful. My complaint isn't the code itself, but the syntactic conventions. Javier