@Marcin I think everyone doing LaTeX editing (of other peoples work) have seen this, and it makes us so depressed. I think some of it is a generation thing, it is often `older' users who have never been told how to do things right. The other group is those `who think they know better' -- no you do not! Sadly I had a student coming by my office last week using constructions like this \begin{framed} \begin{theorem} \textnormal{\\ .....} asymptotic limit \textnormal{.....} \begin{equation} ... \end{equation} \textnormal{....} \end{theorem} \end{framed} just because they never thought about how one could configure theorems and even make them framed. It is really depressing seeing stuff like this. I have no idea how we should educate these people. @Marcin, at your journal, do you tell the authors not to use these constructions? At my department we have a few preprint series, and I actually do copyediting of these to make them look ok, and send a report back to the authors with a list of `please do not do this again'. /Lars Madsen Institut for Matematik / Department of Mathematics Aarhus Universitet / Aarhus University Mere info: http://au.dk/daleif@imf / More information: http://au.dk/en/daleif@imf ________________________________________ From: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of David Kastrup [[log in to unmask]] Sent: 02 February 2014 09:36 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Feasibility of GUIs for authors and class designers in LaTeX3 Marcin Borkowski <[log in to unmask]> writes: > A friend of mine, asked "what to do so that people stop writing bad > LaTeX (user-level) code", gave me a brilliant answer. After each > stupid coding practice, cut them off one finger. After committing ten > idiotic mistakes, they'll stop writing bad LaTeX. He may be overestimating toe-typists. -- David Kastrup