Am Tue, 20 May 2014 11:39:35 +0930 schrieb Will Robertson: > 3. To get proper bold symbols, including Greek, we'll need a whole new set > of commands. These will need sensible names of some sort. Below I've chosen > \symbf, etc., which doesn't look too bad to me. > used for bold math identifiers that aren't real single-letter symbols -- in > such cases it would surely be sensible to use (perhaps a variation on) > \textbf. Imho math fonts should be fix fonts, they should not like \textbf switch one aspect of the "current" font but always to a fix, well defined font. Also chars should not only look ok but in the days of unicode also have the code point with the correct meaning. That means that a bold "T" in math should if possible be the one from the math plane in unicode and not a bold "T" from some textfont -- even if they look the same. So in my opinion the current \mathbf-etc setup in unicode-math actually did the right thing and improved the standard \math-commands. I wouldn't like to loose this completly. If \mathbf pointed to a textfont then everyone who wants the real math symbols would have to replace \mathbf in their code by \symbf. And back again if he wants to use a text font. Wouldn't it be possible to have a "\usetextfontasmathbf..." command which disables the mapping to the math plane? So that one doesn't have to switch between \symbf and \mathbf depending on the font setup of a document? -- Ulrike Fischer http://www.troubleshooting-tex.de/