Hi Ulrike et al, On 20 May 2014, at 11:34 pm, Ulrike Fischer <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > So in my opinion the current \mathbf-etc setup in unicode-math > actually did the right thing and improved the standard > \math-commands. I’m replying out of order, but I’m still inclined to agree with you here :) The big problem was not handling \mathit properly. > I wouldn't like to loose this completly. If \mathbf > pointed to a textfont then everyone who wants the real math symbols > would have to replace \mathbf in their code by \symbf. And back > again if he wants to use a text font. > > Wouldn't it be possible to have a "\usetextfontasmathbf..." command > which disables the mapping to the math plane? So that one doesn't > have to switch between \symbf and \mathbf depending on the font > setup of a document? It has been possible for a long time to select a text font for a math alphabet in unicode-math, but this feature was probably not documented very well. If you try to select a particular unicode range such as \mathbfup and a font simply doesn’t have it (well, it only checks “A” I think), the remapping doesn’t occur and you get the ascii-range glyphs: \documentclass{article} \usepackage{fontspec} \usepackage{unicode-math} \setmainfont{texgyretermes-regular.otf} \setmathfont[range=\mathbfup]{texgyreheros-bold.otf} \begin{document} text \textbf{bold} \[ m+a+t+h \quad \mathbf{b+o+l+d} \] \end{document} BUT this doesn’t work properly with \mathit, because unicode-math hasn’t distinguished “math alphabetic symbols” from “math text font”. Cheers, Will