I'm working on basic support (very basic) for bidi text and I'm facing a problem with \list because it relies on \parshape. I copy a message I sent to the luatex list: ----------------------------- Well, after thinking a little more about this I'm not so sure. The problem is \parshape is used for two different purposes: (a) fancy paragraphs (a heart, the map of The Netherlands, wrapping some text around a figure, etc.); (b) an alternative to \left/rightskip and \parindent. While mirroring the latter makes sense, mirroring The Netherlands seems a bit odd. I wonder if an alternative could be \parshape dir XXX, like boxes. ---------------------------- I'd like not to touch the core at all (until now I've managed to do it), and on the other hand many packages emulate what LaTeX does. Suggestions? Javier