typing a small memo on hboxes et vboxes, I got surprising alignement (except if I put a empty box on the first line of the enumerate/itemize) and some overprinting too. It was certainly a mistake to bracket some text in the beginning of an item list, but I wanted brackets therfore here is the following test for the MASTERS. I do not put it on the BUG list, because it may be a feature Here is the text and admire both overprinting and misplaced item bullets VERSION: Latex@e: Document class: article 1996/10/31 v1.3U standard LaTeX document class: SOURCE: \documentclass{article} \title{bug or feature} \begin{document} \maketitle \begin{description} \item[How and when to use vboxes] \begin{itemize} \item[What to put in a vbox:} \item Use a box without emptying... \end{itemize] \item[How and when to use hboxes] \begin{itemize} \item Usually you put in a hbox some text you want... \item enough... \end{itemize} \end{description} \end{document} %%%% [log in to unmask] %------------------------------------------------------------------