> > so, sebastian, don't give up yet! i am heartened by your message. sounds hopeful > and don't knock vms without looking a little more closely. oh please, let me... but i was under the impression that tree searching is just not fast enough in a real production environment on VMS< simply using wildcards? am i out of date? Phil demonstrated to me once that finding files on the TeX Live CD was veeery slow (unless I misremember) sebastian