> In any case, I have strong doubts whether what is good for Elsevier > is necessarily what is good for the latex community or for the > academic community. I've no doubt Sebastian has, too. However, I believe we ignore "the publishers' attitude" at our peril, and we've got precious few publishers talking to us just now. What has LaTeX 3 done, up to now? Is it merely techniques, or has some new UI code be written already? My understanding was the former: if I'm right, we are well-placed to be thinking the unthinkable right now. Robin F