> I do not think they go around boasting about how bad their > grammar is, do they? well, to be honest, yes some do. they say that grammar and spelling don't matter. > Unlike the attitude of the chattering classes > to their unwillingness to understand science or mathematics. michel said: the starting point of scientific papers (sic) is a set of equations i said: i very seldom if ever use mathematical formulae in papers that i write you said: the chattering classes are unwilling to understand science and maths Its not clear to me how the third one is arrived at. Sebastian