i said, re tugboat, in pre-latex days, it was often possible to run the camera-ready copy of an issue as a unit. no more. and david responded No doubt true if you say so, but is LaTeX the cause or is it more that in those days you were not trying to typeset an article in cyrillic followed by an article about 16bit Omega fonts followed by .. it's some of each. if article 1 had to redefine the output routine to enable side-insertion of figures, there was a good chance that article 2 would have to be started up separately. but cyrillic (at least using the amsfonts and associated font-handling) would not pose a problem, nor would, usually, any article that took care not to redefine "core" or primitive control sequences or reset penalties. actually, reset penalties can be even more insidious than redefined control sequences -- the latter often kindly crash and make their presence known, while the former simply cause different line and page breaks without any "obvious" reason. me: that little matter of incompatible packages is a real beast. david: Yes for you especially in TUGBOAT I suspect that you are always going to be hitting some real hard incompatibility, but as I said to Sebastian earlier in this thread ``you don't count'':-) it's nice (?) to be a member of that exclusive minority ... but i agree that, since one of the purposes of tugboat is to show off what tex is capable of, the boundaries are going to be stretched quite regularly. at least (most of) the reasons for problems are more tolerable now than in the days when a single page had to be set in four pieces and patched together with tape because of limited memory. regarding the use of multiple (possibly incompatible) packages, In these cases you can usually (perhaps:-) arrange just to load all packages used by any of the sub documents at the start of the `master' document and then just input each sub document in turn (after suitably disabling all the preamble commands). i would surely welcome your input toward resolving this dilemma, and i think that robin probably would too. -- bb