Enough, already. This is absolutely nothing to do with LaTeX. Hans (for reasons of his own) believes that pointy-clicky-shooty interfaces are good for him. I *know* that they're bad for my arthritic old hands, Sebastian (younger man that he is) is chuffed with his emacs setup. Each to his own, but let's *not* waste ANY MORE BANDWIDTH on the LaTeX mailing list about it. And please let's not play silly buggers mime-ifying messages that don't need them, OK? Robin