David Carlisle writes: > it was explained that this meant basically starting school until first > year University. Ie almost no 20th century mathematics. Not you and Chris sound like Simon Rattle saying that "if you listen to enough Luciano Berio, you'll really like it, _honest_. and that Dallapiccola, he'll have you on the edge of your seats" the cognoscenti will realize that i stopped advancing in music about the same date i stopped advancing in math, ie c. 1968  Sebastian  no, Chris, no! I am NOT proud of my ignorance!