I've spend some time last week writing up the documentation for a first footnote package and just a couple of minutes ago added it to the experimental code section on the project www server you'll find it at ftp//:www.latex-project.org/code/experimental/xfootnote.tgz (tar gzip) http//:www.latex-project.org/code/experimental/xfootnote (dir with individual files) it consist of a package file xfootnote.dtx (roughly 20 pages) a docstrip batch file xfootnote.ins and a small test file xfootnote-test.tex so far it only covers latex like types of footnotes, other layouts need adding. so you will not be surprised if i have essentially the same questions as with the xcontents stuff: - do you think the templates provide you with the keys to implement the layouts people might need/want? - what is missing, what is wrong, what is right? - there are a lot of questions posed in the .dtx file, perhaps some of you have some answers? - if anybody thinks he/she knows of designs that can't be achieved i would like to learn about them --- there must be many i'm sure ... best frank